tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post4339820764065631656..comments2023-07-02T14:36:38.393+01:00Comments on Lonely Scribe: New breastfeeding research: approach with caution!Lonely Scribehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16699804881912930230noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-66426332540766385692014-05-20T12:54:55.462+01:002014-05-20T12:54:55.462+01:00That should say "well known" in the firs...That should say "well known" in the first line! The penultimate line should say "directed to a study". Problems with my keyboard!Ginihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16645291772441484692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-58941437080689695272014-05-20T12:53:28.477+01:002014-05-20T12:53:28.477+01:00I think critically that this study was done "...I think critically that this study was done "within" families. It is now well now that the environment can have a significant affect on a child's outcomes. By working "within" families this doesn't control for different environments. This I think casts a considerable shadow over the results and I would be interested to be directed in study that looks "between" families to see if the results differ. I think you might find they do.Ginihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16645291772441484692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-73820151137978500962014-03-18T21:06:50.424+00:002014-03-18T21:06:50.424+00:00Breastfeeding needs to be a personal and private c...Breastfeeding needs to be a personal and private choice. Just as with whom we have a child is and when in our lives we choose to do so. So many critical variables are being ignored and denied in the medical/political community. It is astounding.<br /><br />1. What is the true rate of alcohol and/or drug use (over the counter or otherwise) in breastfeeding mothers? Do we *really* know the long term affects are of that?<br /><br />2. Isn’t the mother’s overall health before, during, and after the pregnancy critical to this discussion for whoever is driving this seemingly irrational discussion?<br /> <br />3. Why hasn’t the focus been placed on maternal nutrition during pregnancy? How *exactly* could this have less importance than whether or not to breastfeed post-pregnancy.<br /><br />4. Some mothers (including myself) are sensitive to hormonal shifts that have somewhat severe side effects during both pregnancy and breastfeeding—a bit like having PMS for several years, every day. What about people like this? Like me?<br /><br />5. Some babies just aren’t as good at breastfeeding for whatever reason, one of my babies (both full-term) was an immediate “breast feeder” and the other was not… However, both of my children were extremely healthy babies and children. Very bright students. Well adjusted human beings. Happy and healthy—never overweight nor failed to thrive at any point. <br /><br />Thank Goodness I went through my pregnancies 20+ years ago, before this very toxic, judgmental and intrusive policy became the norm.<br /><br />We are doing a great disservice to the mothers everywhere who are made to feel anything except DELIGHT to leave the hospital post delivery with their new baby. Instead they are pressured to feel like failures for not choosing to breastfeed constantly and tremendous shame for feeling uncomfortable about pumping breast milk after returning to work.<br /><br />Do children grow up happier or healthier if their mother’s feel inadequate from the very first day? Hmm… How could there be so many professionals so severely misguided?<br />swiftymcmeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395465365670268777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-87460183926415700882014-03-08T14:29:25.021+00:002014-03-08T14:29:25.021+00:00Trouble is, saying 'it's personal choice&#...Trouble is, saying 'it's personal choice' ignores the fact that many women are not happy to be formula feeding, and sidesteps the way we need a whole culture to enable more breastfeeding. Surely it's better to work out ways of ensuring more of the women who want to breastfeed actually do it, while supporting the ones who don't, with no judging?<br /><br />Sounds as if you would have liked to breastfeed 2nd time, if you'd been able to, yes? It wasn't 'personal choice' with you, from the sound of it. <br /><br />Your experience with chest infections etc says nothing except that the outcome of individual cases cannot be predicted! Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772690457152339819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-68323168351237653612014-03-07T20:38:32.566+00:002014-03-07T20:38:32.566+00:00A small sample group is an obvious concern. Due to...A small sample group is an obvious concern. Due to my personal experience i find this research very interesting. I bf my first exclusively for 6 months. She had 24 lots of antibiotics for chest infections before her 2nd birthday.She has since been diagnosed with asthma. I was unable to Bf My second and she has not had any chest infections. What I struggled with was the pressure and guilt to bf (some of it self imposed). Its about personal choice… so long as the baby is flourishing and the mother is happy. Surely this is best!1 Mrs vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16821193399872064555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-7801382364091850022014-03-07T02:29:39.069+00:002014-03-07T02:29:39.069+00:00Good critical observation n analysis..:) thanks!Good critical observation n analysis..:) thanks!adisuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13478308083909826082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-38654740550904432652014-03-02T15:12:02.433+00:002014-03-02T15:12:02.433+00:00This explains how the methodology was flawed - imp...This explains how the methodology was flawed - importantly, breastfeeding seems to have been defined as any breastfeeding, so could have been just one feed! http://info.babymilkaction.org/news/campaignblog280214Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16351064193189146924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-46441668353121219292014-03-02T04:07:37.029+00:002014-03-02T04:07:37.029+00:00As RN working for many years in Obstetrics I studi...As RN working for many years in Obstetrics I studied and taught parenting classes. I also was involved in teaching nutritionally healthy life styles for a physician. I worked at keeping up with the latest research so I could advise our mother's wisely. That was years ago and I still find science interesting and want to keep up with the latest findings. The problem is the research findings change sometimes due to the researchers trying prove what they already believe. Like the research that women who smoke have babies of lower birth weight. I would consider that pregnant women who smoke would most likely make many other unhealthy choices. If my grand-daughters asked my opinion I would want them to consider how many people are involved in the production of formula. We get food recalls on a frequent basis. They found years later that a very popular formula actually caused severe problems for infants. There was an outrage when the company sent the formula they couldn't sell to a impoverished country. Some mothers have difficulty in breast feeding and the stress involved is not good for the baby or the family. Working mothers also have problems that should be considered. I do believe the best and safest milk is from the mother and leaving outsiders from being involved. It also is a great bonding time for them. That being said we need to realize there are circumstances where breast feeding is too difficult for some, and it does appear there are many that were not breast fed that are enjoying life, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-12696261610724454122014-03-01T10:49:36.428+00:002014-03-01T10:49:36.428+00:00Thank you! I enjoyed your response too :)Thank you! I enjoyed your response too :)Lonely Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699804881912930230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-4465238025876297932014-03-01T08:41:40.973+00:002014-03-01T08:41:40.973+00:00I wasn't suggesting that, no.I wasn't suggesting that, no.NutriBabyUKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12489612886224758008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-30673254117325277812014-03-01T07:53:40.451+00:002014-03-01T07:53:40.451+00:00This is interesting, thank you for commenting!This is interesting, thank you for commenting!Lonely Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699804881912930230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-1887790495784073862014-03-01T01:23:34.992+00:002014-03-01T01:23:34.992+00:00It is interesting that the population which had di...It is interesting that the population which had differently fed babies also had a higher proportion of hispanic families. My understanding was that most hispanic mothers use "los dos" feeding which combines breastfeeding with formula. The proportions change as the baby grows. So in the study, "los dos" feeding would be classed as breastfeeding. Since it might not refer to any exclusive breastfeeding, I would not expect to see any difference between siblings who fed using this method vs fully or mostly formula fed. <br /><br />I would be intetested to see replication of the study analysis and results too,before anyone gets carried away. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-28955346634229083022014-02-28T19:10:31.713+00:002014-02-28T19:10:31.713+00:00Thanks for commenting. I don't think there'...Thanks for commenting. I don't think there's any suggestion that this study has been funded by vested interests; according to the press release: "This work is supported by a grant from the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health & Human Development awarded to the Ohio State University Institute for Population Research." Lonely Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699804881912930230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-38519930449817358572014-02-28T18:49:25.502+00:002014-02-28T18:49:25.502+00:00Can we say study was funded by whom? My money wou...Can we say study was funded by whom? My money would be on Ross Laboratories or Nestlé. Oh, my.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12958194509392705091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-55323928132713469432014-02-28T17:37:27.179+00:002014-02-28T17:37:27.179+00:00Thanks for commenting and straightening this out H...Thanks for commenting and straightening this out Heather!<br />Lonely Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699804881912930230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-51006722877157997942014-02-28T16:41:47.210+00:002014-02-28T16:41:47.210+00:00No - there is no evidence that maternal levels of ...No - there is no evidence that maternal levels of nutrition affect the ability of breastmilk to nourish in any way. In any case, this study would not be affected by this, as it was looking at babies from the same families. Please don't perpetuate the myth that mothers need to eat/drink certain foods in order to breastfeed. Heathernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-78414073167279246312014-02-28T16:17:30.228+00:002014-02-28T16:17:30.228+00:00"Hopefully this study will give women who can... "Hopefully this study will give women who can’t or don’t want to breast-feed for whatever reason more ammunition to tell the breast-is-best purists to piss off" <br /><br />This last comment of the article says it all. Whoever wrote was obviously not a breastfeeding mother and is harboring some guilt or anger at their choice. Look hard enough and you can find research to support whatever belief you hold true. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-79667604249887926892014-02-28T10:53:15.342+00:002014-02-28T10:53:15.342+00:00Exactly! Chimps seem to manage really well Exactly! Chimps seem to manage really well Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263653930059563828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-35601278353187992702014-02-28T10:52:28.295+00:002014-02-28T10:52:28.295+00:00Must it? Must it? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263653930059563828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-5509282763994178052014-02-28T09:42:15.656+00:002014-02-28T09:42:15.656+00:00Nutri Baby UK, you're suggesting that all vege...Nutri Baby UK, you're suggesting that all vegetarian bf mothers are malnourished and their breastmilk is inferior to that of meat eating mothers or even formula based on a single aspect of their diet?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-11402985344498115882014-02-28T09:23:52.573+00:002014-02-28T09:23:52.573+00:00In evaluating the validity of a scientific study, ...In evaluating the validity of a scientific study, one of the criteria is whether it is at odds with other studies on the same subject. If it is, as this is, it should be taken with a grain of salt.<br />noelanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06459339092491148181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-21781345131955405772014-02-28T08:18:36.391+00:002014-02-28T08:18:36.391+00:00Nobody seems to also consider how well nourished t...Nobody seems to also consider how well nourished the bf mothers were. Nor whether they were vegetarian. This SAD leaves much to be desired. Comparing ff with vegetarian bm, or ff with well nourished (WAPF style) bm must reveal differences.NutriBabyUKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12489612886224758008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-4104411952277123772014-02-28T04:04:43.636+00:002014-02-28T04:04:43.636+00:00The researcher does not know if the babies were br...The researcher does not know if the babies were breastfed exclusively and I didn't see duration included either. SDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-81389330647200206722014-02-27T23:03:10.141+00:002014-02-27T23:03:10.141+00:00The cult of motherhood? Please give me strength. ...The cult of motherhood? Please give me strength. This paper oppresses women and lets down a generation of women. The language " do not nor cannot breastfed" summarises the authors understanding of breastfeeding. <br />I'm glad to find and share your post Hannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14960844122271081783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647340539604305311.post-17393834729879023322014-02-27T22:49:41.252+00:002014-02-27T22:49:41.252+00:00I love how the obvious is ignored by most research...I love how the obvious is ignored by most researchers - how can something that is manufactured in a factory possibly be better than what our bodies evolved to do over millennia? Because historically there's far more evidence for human milk to be best for humans than there is for formula, as evidenced by the fact that our species didn't die out, and by the fact that prior to the advent of formula, a wet nurse was preferable and had better infant survival rates than feeding with milk from goats or cows. Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11447949592701882774noreply@blogger.com